Then may I recommend some Nicholas Roeg movies? He was a director back in the seventies, and every one of his stories is a Jung play at the symbolic level.
To understand it, I also recommend picking up "A Cinema of Lonliness", a book about his movies.
Sorry, I was a film minor, and Roeg was quite fascinating.
Yes, I studied film for awhile (so I understand the disease). Roeg's Walkabout is a long time, very strange, favorite. Which reminds me...haven't seen it in awhile. ;-)
Yay Jung! I love Jung. He was on to something. He was a bit sexist and a bit racist, but I think he figured something out with the collective unconscious and archetypes. I don't believe it's a literal memory passed down through the ages, but I think they're very pertinent to society and, especially, to art and creativity.
I also love the stories about his relationship with Freud. Freud sounded like a total kook who took his theories just a little too seriously.
Also, have you seen the U.S. version of The Ring? I think part of the reason that movie works so well (it's brilliant) is how much of the archetypes it incorporates into it. It literally becomes a Western interpretation of a nightmare. It finds a completely subconscious way of entering your brain and scaring the crap out of you. :) It's very Jungian. I love it. And every time someone tries to tell me how terrible it was, they end up getting a long Jungian thesis from me on why it wasn't in the least bit terrible. ;)
While never okay, I do give him a slight break for being a product of his time. We can never really escape the time and culture we were raised into, despite our best efforts.
His work on the unconscious, archetypes and the symbolic and psychological underpinnings of alchemy really resonate with me. In fact, one of the big reasons I was drawn into astrology was because of a movement called Archetypcal Astrology, which is all about Jung. Liz Green is probably the best and most well known proponent of that system. Sort of a personal archetypal system. And yes, I agree about it being very pertinent to art, creativity, and society. The trouble is, we're so uneducated about our past in current Western society that we don't understand most of the underpinnings of our own society...but don't get me started. (Really, don't get me started.) :-)
As to the Ring...I only like to write horror stories, not watch them. I am...how you say?...a big fat chicken. It's weird, because I can watch shows like Ghost Hunters and even if I buy into the ghostly activity, it doesn't scare me. But fictionalized stuff? Yeah.
That being said, I'm currently writing a ghost story.
That's too bad because The Ring is one of my favorite horror movies of all time. It scared the bejesus out of me for so long. These days, though, it's just fascinating to watch how brilliantly the director and the writer did their jobs in portraying all the wonderful archetypes and motifs. I think it's far superior to the Japanese version. My theory is that the Japanese version used symbolism that appealed to an Eastern consciousness that doesn't resonate as much with a Western audience (or maybe it doesn't resonate as much with just me hehe).
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Date: 2007-10-05 07:49 pm (UTC)And, I haven't said this yet, but this new format makes it much easier to read - so thanks! I know you did it just for me.
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Date: 2007-10-05 09:09 pm (UTC)And as I've said before, I'm very geniusofevilcentric. :-)
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Date: 2007-10-06 02:04 am (UTC)To understand it, I also recommend picking up "A Cinema of Lonliness", a book about his movies.
Sorry, I was a film minor, and Roeg was quite fascinating.
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Date: 2007-10-06 03:34 pm (UTC)I also love the stories about his relationship with Freud. Freud sounded like a total kook who took his theories just a little too seriously.
Also, have you seen the U.S. version of The Ring? I think part of the reason that movie works so well (it's brilliant) is how much of the archetypes it incorporates into it. It literally becomes a Western interpretation of a nightmare. It finds a completely subconscious way of entering your brain and scaring the crap out of you. :) It's very Jungian. I love it. And every time someone tries to tell me how terrible it was, they end up getting a long Jungian thesis from me on why it wasn't in the least bit terrible. ;)
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Date: 2007-10-06 05:10 pm (UTC)While never okay, I do give him a slight break for being a product of his time. We can never really escape the time and culture we were raised into, despite our best efforts.
His work on the unconscious, archetypes and the symbolic and psychological underpinnings of alchemy really resonate with me. In fact, one of the big reasons I was drawn into astrology was because of a movement called Archetypcal Astrology, which is all about Jung. Liz Green is probably the best and most well known proponent of that system. Sort of a personal archetypal system. And yes, I agree about it being very pertinent to art, creativity, and society. The trouble is, we're so uneducated about our past in current Western society that we don't understand most of the underpinnings of our own society...but don't get me started. (Really, don't get me started.) :-)
As to the Ring...I only like to write horror stories, not watch them. I am...how you say?...a big fat chicken. It's weird, because I can watch shows like Ghost Hunters and even if I buy into the ghostly activity, it doesn't scare me. But fictionalized stuff? Yeah.
That being said, I'm currently writing a ghost story.
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