pjthompson: parker writing (dorothy)
I once had a writing teacher tell me I was an incredible prose stylist—which was a pretty heady thing to hear from a teacher. But don’t worry, it didn’t go to my head. Truth be told, I didn't like or respect him much—he was arrogant and needlessly and publicly cruel to a rather fragile young woman in the class whom I rather liked. So that mitigated my egoboo somewhat. I was considerably younger then and although I could write me some purdy sentences and liked writing them they weren't getting me anywhere in particular. The striving for that literary style and for the approval it brought was choking off my own voice, my true writer self. At a certain point I moved away from the jewel-like sentences in favor of character and later plot.

Don't get me wrong. The five-year old in me will always want approval, I've just had to learn to move beyond that, to do what I do even if nobody likes it. Otherwise, I choke myself into paralysis.

I am first and foremost a character-driven writer. Once an interesting character has their hooks in me, elaborate plots seem to spring fully blown from my head like tiny Athenas. I’m sometimes cursed by the weight of these plots and don't necessarily always pull them off. In at least two novels I realized I had tried to write a duology or trilogy in one book. Neither of those has gone much of anywhere in quite some time. It's exhausting even to think of breaking them up and doing massive rewrites.

Then came the years of caregiving and no writing at all and that was agonizing. It's taken me a very long and arduous time to get back to anything like a regular writing practice—and I am still far from where I was. Part of me, especially when I read a work by an incredible prose stylist, wants to go back to writing jewel-like sentences. But the important part for me is to be true to my own voice and my characters and keep moving forward. I can throw in the pretty here and there, and I enjoy that, but the important thing is getting something on the page on a regular basis and worrying about the pretty and the atmosphere later. Call it what you will, but that's a survival instinct for me, especially in these times of diminishing time. A person, a writer, can only be what they are and should be grateful to still be producing. I know I am.

Voice

Feb. 10th, 2021 01:18 pm
pjthompson: quotes (quotei)
Random quote of the day:

“That time
we all heard it,
cool and clear,
cutting across the hot grit of the day.
The major Voice.
The adult Voice
forgoing Rolling River,
forgoing tearful tale of bale and barge
and other symptoms of an old despond.
Warning, in music-words
devout and large,
that we are each other’s
harvest:
we are each other’s
business:
we are each other’s
magnitude and bond.”

―Gwendolyn Brooks, Paul Robeson



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Voice

Apr. 17th, 2019 02:25 pm
pjthompson: quotes (quotei)

Random quote of the day:

“Most of us only find our own voices after we’ve sounded like a lot of other people.”

—Neil Gaiman, Keynote Address, University of the Arts, May 17, 2012

 

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Voice

Apr. 17th, 2019 01:12 pm
pjthompson: quotes (quotei)

Random quote of the day:

“Most of us only find our own voices after we’ve sounded like a lot of other people.”

—Neil Gaiman, Keynote Address, University of the Arts, May 17, 2012

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this random quote of the day do not necessarily reflect the views of the poster, her immediate family, Laurel and Hardy, Ariana Grande, or the Salvation Army Band. They do, however, sometimes reflect the views of the Cottingley Fairies.

Mirrored from Better Than Dead.

Voice

Jan. 30th, 2019 11:56 am
pjthompson: quotes (quotei)

Random quote of the day:

“I think ‘finding your voice’ is a false concept. It leads you to believe that it’s out there somewhere, like it’s behind the sofa cushions. I think your voice is always inside of you, and you find it by releasing things into your work that you have inside. I grew by allowing aspects of myself that I had previously excluded into my poetry.”

—Billy Collins, The Paris Review, Fall 2001, No. 159

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this random quote of the day do not necessarily reflect the views of the poster, her immediate family, Laurel and Hardy, Ariana Grande, or the Salvation Army Band. They do, however, sometimes reflect the views of the Cottingley Fairies.

Mirrored from Better Than Dead.

Style

Nov. 14th, 2018 12:02 pm
pjthompson: quotes (quotei)

Random quote of the day:

“Style results more from what a person is than from what he knows.”

—E. B. White, The Paris Review, Issue 48, Fall 1969

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Mirrored from Better Than Dead.

pjthompson: (lilith)

The first time I had a writer’s block of years’ duration was after my father died. I realized, in hindsight and after the words started flowing again, that I was blocked because I needed to redefine myself as a writer. I couldn’t tell the same old stories in the same old way. I had changed; my subject matter had changed; my voice was developing in new ways. When the words came back, it was to write something totally new—and when they came back, they came in a flood. I could hardly transcribe fast enough.

The good news was, after the torrent of words started flowing again, I was able to return to some of the older ideas and reshape them to my new self.

Now I am in the midst of another writer’s block of years’ duration. The words stopped first when I became so consumed by taking care of my mother that I didn’t have time for anything but caregiving and my job and trying to keep life together. My mother has been gone two years now, and still the words won’t come. I’ve poked hopefully at several of the things I’d been working on before crisis descended on our lives, and although I like several of those things, nothing happens.

A couple of weeks ago I had the same old epiphany: I need to write something new. I’m not the same person. I have a new subject matter. What that subject matter is hasn’t emerged. It’s not time yet. I still have to be a while longer in the space I’m in. I suspect, as with the last time, when those new stories emerge, they will come to me instinctually rather than intellectually. I won’t figure out the new subject matter in my head because it’s a soul process. And whatever it is, whenever it happens, it will be exciting to see.

Patience is what’s required of me now. And the ability to let myself be. And see.

Mirrored from Better Than Dead.

Flow

Sep. 1st, 2016 09:50 am
pjthompson: quotes (quotei)

Random quote of the day:

“Poetry is the liquid voice that can wear through stone.”

—Adrienne Rich, What Is Found There

liquid4WP@@@ 

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this random quote of the day do not necessarily reflect the views of the poster, her immediate family, Siegfried and Roy, Leonard Maltin, or the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. They do, however, sometimes reflect the views of the Cottingley Fairies.

 

Mirrored from Better Than Dead.

Flow

Sep. 1st, 2016 09:50 am
pjthompson: quotes (quotei)

Random quote of the day:

“Poetry is the liquid voice that can wear through stone.”

—Adrienne Rich, What Is Found There

liquid4WP@@@ 

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this random quote of the day do not necessarily reflect the views of the poster, her immediate family, Siegfried and Roy, Leonard Maltin, or the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. They do, however, sometimes reflect the views of the Cottingley Fairies.

 

Mirrored from Better Than Dead.

pjthompson: quotes (quotei)

Random quote of the day:

“You kind of evolve into your voice. Or maybe your voice is out there, waiting for you to grow up.”

—Tom Waits, interview, National Public Radio, March 1, 2011

voice4WP@@@

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Mirrored from Better Than Dead.

pjthompson: quotes (quotei)

Random quote of the day:

“You kind of evolve into your voice. Or maybe your voice is out there, waiting for you to grow up.”

—Tom Waits, interview, National Public Radio, March 1, 2011

voice4WP@@@

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this random quote of the day do not necessarily reflect the views of the poster, her immediate family, Siegfried and Roy, Leonard Maltin, or the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. They do, however, sometimes reflect the views of the Cottingley Fairies.

Mirrored from Better Than Dead.

Voice

Oct. 22nd, 2014 11:26 am
pjthompson: quotes (quotei)

Random quote of the day:

“You come by your style by learning what to leave out. At first you tend to overwrite—embellishment instead of insight. You either continue to write puerile bilge, or you change. In the process of simplifying oneself, one often discovers the thing called voice.”

—Billy Collins, quoted in Ben Yagoda, The Sound on the Page

 voice4WP@@@

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Mirrored from Better Than Dead.

pjthompson: quotes (quotei)

 

Random quote of the day:

 

“Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness.  And they live by what they hear.  Such people become crazy…or they become legend.”

—Jim Harrison, Legends of the Fall

 inner4WP@@@

 

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Mirrored from Better Than Dead.

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So, the funky voice problems continue in the first part of chapter 14 of Angels. I'm wondering now if it's just funky voice or if my problem may also involve a funky frame to hang this part of the plot on? I also suspect there may be at least one superfluous character. (Loreo, for those of you reading along at home.) Mostly he just sits around nodding sagely, listening to people talk, issuing the occasional command. I could probably cut him, but then I'd have to shift the job description of someone else around to fill the void, and...

The problem there is that he'll be much more relevant in books two and three of the trilogy.

Aye me. I'm at that stage of pre-submission suppressed panic and nothing seems right. I can't tell if it's because it really isn't right or because I'm looking for an excuse not to send it out. I'll push on with the rewrite and see how I feel about a restructure when I reach the end. I really like the first eleven chapters, anyway, and the ending kicks butt, if I do say so myself.

It has seemed for some time now that the voice I use in Angels doesn't really feel like my own. In parts it does, but in other places it's like I'm borrowing someone else's voice. I ran this by my friend who I've known since I was twelve, who's read...let's see...most of what I've written. "Rereading Shivery Bones has really pointed out how different the voice is between that, Angels, and Venus," I told her. "I think Bones and Venus are more representative of my true voice."

"And I think," she said, "that Bones is more representative of the voice of a younger you. Venus is more representative of who you are now."

She is brilliant and she is correct. That's the dissonance I'm feeling. Angels is pulling between the old and the new and that works fine in places. Others, not so much. I don't quite know what to do with that since I was hoping to start marketing Angels. I was going to push through and start marketing anyway, and I probably will do that, because I just can't trust my objectivity here, but this dreaded middle makes me wonder.

It also occurred to me that I didn't "dream" that book as much as I did the others—and that kind of creative daydreaming, for me anyway, seems to be intimately connected with voice. The voice is a direct result of being intensely inside the idea for awhile before it starts coming out of me.

On a positive note, I've begun posting things to the Online Writing Workshop again. The first three chapters of Shivery Bones because I've thought of a couple of more places to try that book and I wanted to be sure the new prologue/chapter beginning worked with the rest of the opening. I was so burned out from crits when I gave up posting to OWW (going on two years ago) that I wasn't sure if I'd ever post again. But I've enjoyed being back, doing crits. I might even post the opening to Venus In Transit to see if I can poke myself into finishing up there.

But first, the rest of the Angels rewrite. For better or worse.

A Rain of Angels

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Here's a meme I got from [livejournal.com profile] hominysnark, including the verbiage below (because I am a lazy swine). The answers to the questions and the voice, however, are my own.

"Voice posts are fun, right? You get to hear funny accents if your friends are from far, far away. All we really want is to hear your voice, we don't care what you're saying. So here's a list of typical meme questions that would otherwise be boring, but when communicated aloud - well, it's entertaining. Answer these questions in your post, and encourage others with voice-posting abilities to do the same." (Double dare!)

1) What's your name?
2) How old are you?
3) Where are you from? Are you living there right now?
4) Is it cold where you are?
5) What's the time?
6) What are you wearing?
7) What was the last thing you listened to?
8) What was the last thing you ate?
9) What was the last thing you watched on tv?
10) What's your favorite tv show? Why?
11) Quick! Find a book, or something with text on it! Flip to a random page and read some of it! GO!
12) What was the last movie you saw? How was it?
13) Do YOU think you have an accent? Talk about that.







Oh! And don't forget the irony, folks!
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I've discovered that writing a comic novel is no more fun than writing Serious Stuff. When you get to the crappy middle, it's still the crappy middle and still a chore. I find the same level of resistance as I felt with my sturm und drang novels, the same desire to goof off and do anything but write the damned thing, the same unrelenting doubts, the same pounding forward just to get the words on the page, the same certainty that I've lost my voice and am drifting in a Sargasso of cliché.

Well, actually, I probably am drifting in a Sargasso of cliché. It's a first draft. It's supposed to stink like mats of decaying sea matter. But it is something of a revelation to me that the same processes occur in my tortured psyche whether I am sailing in sunshine or storm.

What a rip off.

The good thing? This feels much closer to my natural voice than the high fantasy/steampunk novel I'm editing. I've completely lost track of who I am on that one. I imagine some time away from it will help.

The other thing? Doing a close reading/edit on that other novel (one of the stormy ones) while trying to write the funny is schizophrenic, to say the least. In fact, much of my writing energy for days now has gone into finishing up the edit. I am closing in on the end of the edit (2 more chapters!) and will concentrate on getting that done before diving back into the WIP.

And the edit? That shining castle on the hill that I first envisioned is looking more like a shotgun shack in the swamp these days. The story is far more melodramatic then I thought it would be. I suspect I don't really know what it is at this point. Late in the late draft blues. I've floated on that Sargasso before, too.
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I know they're both important, and I would dearly love to open this up to a larger forum and hear what others think on this subject. Or perhaps someone with a larger audience might like to take up the question on their own blog?

ETA: Yes, this is mostly a rhetorical question for the purposes of discussion. As I said, both are important.

In my current state of mood, and having read far too many writing blogs for my own good, I'm thinking that voice ultimately trumps worldbuilding.

If book A has breathtaking ideas but writer A can't write h/er way out of a paper shroud, will a tree fall in the forest and still make a sound?

No wait, I said that wrong. How about this: if the worldbuilding is chock full of amazing ideas but the execution is poor, it seems to me the book will probably not sell or find an agent.

But I could be wrong. It has happened before. I'm sure you could come up with a few names as exemplars of good ideas/bad writing who have managed to get published and flourish, but I have to think they are exceptions. Or are they?

Perhaps this is a better example: If writer B, for instance, has good worldbuilding, and is a solid writer, but doesn't have that spark of voice, that fresh way of telling the story, I'm not sure they can break through. Whereas writer C may have so-so worldbuilding, but a fresh and original voice, and gets a 3-book deal.

Or can they? Which is more important--voice or worldbuilding?
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Blackout of the day: I guess there was one. Here in Santa Monica we didn't feel it. I imagine when I get home tonight, leaving the city of Santa Monica for the city of L.A., the power will either still be off or some of my appliances will be blinking on and off.

Writing business of the day: Took my first gander at chapter 19 since I wrote it in April. One of my reviewers was right: too much mush. I'm not going to edit it out at this point, though.

I did one of my periodic "the novel so far" outlines on Friday to see how much junk, er, plot I still had to get through. It is winnowing down, but I see a lot of cutting in my future when this thing is done. Such is always the case with me. My first two novels didn't seem to have that problem, but all the ones since have. I've abandoned many of the "tricks" I employed back then, with good reason, but perhaps there are things I could learn from my younger self? My plots have gotten denser and denser since then, it seems.

Or maybe I just take longer to say things. My voice evolved into something rather more lush than I expected. The roots of the plump-style writing were always there, I suspect.

Developing a voice, it seems to me, is about learning bit-by-bit to be comfortable with who you are; realizing that sometimes that means you aren't who you thought you were when you started out; about being okay with that because you can't really be what you're not. I admire spare prose that packs a lot of punch in few words, but I know I'll never be able to do that. It's not a matter of training. It's a matter of voice. Like the color of your hair and eyes, it's something you're born with, I think. Some way of perceiving and conveying the world that is innate.

Significant milestone of the day: I packed my first box of books last night--the first of thousands. When one has thousands of books, one pays the price. When I moved into my current apartment I had 30 boxes of books. I've bought many more since. This is going to get ugly. Either the book carnage will be mighty and used bookstores and senior citizens centers all over the city will benefit--or I will be packing a lot of fricking books. I'll be curious (and horrified, no doubt) to see what the real box total turns out to be.

The other day I needed to get out of the apartment so I wandered through a bookstore. I felt comforted just being there, surrounded by all those words. I know that's kind of strange--but I know I'm kind of strange. It wound up being a frustrating experience because I found books I wanted but couldn't afford to buy. I bought one anyway, the paper back of Isaac's Storm by Erik Larson, which I've meant to read for ever-so-long because I'd heard it was ever-so-good. This seemed like a good time to read it. And it is good. The writing is quite lovely and it's structured rather novelistically. And I suppose I'll be packing that up one day soon, too.

Poetry of the day: )
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Overheard "conversation" of the day:

About eight this morning I was in the antechamber off my bathroom. The bathroom itself is right over the alley behind the apartment building and I'm only on the second floor, so that alley is real close. I always keep the bathroom window open and this morning I heard car tires on the gravel, the car stopping right below my window, the door opening. Then I heard this woman's voice: "Are you f--ing kidding me? Are you f--ing kidding me? I got a f--ing flat tire from running over a f--ing bicycle thing?"

I don't know if there was anyone else in the car—no one answered her—and I wondered if she'd pulled into the alley to get away from the person who's "bicycle thing" she'd run over. A few moments later, I heard the car door close and the car pull (slowly) away from the building.

The mean streets of L.A., folks. No bicycle thing is safe.

Thing I thought of blogging about today: Tom Cruise's obvious chemical imbalance.

Why I didn't blog it: I still might, but I needed to do other stuff and Tom's not that important.

Other thing I thought of blogging about today: My frustration over my explain-o-mania—a tendency to always want to explain myself because I'm just sure I've been misunderstood.

Why I didn't blog it: It seemed too much like explaining myself. :-)

Misspeak of the day: The news dude who called the famous Leonardo da Vinci painting, "The Virgin On the Rocks."

Writing of the day: A crit and I worked on the opening of my long novelette, "Sealed With A Curse."

I've reworked that thing so many times, but something still nags at me. I have that deep sense of knowing that it isn't quite there—you know the one? But I can't put my finger on what it is. It's just not special enough.

At one point today I thought, "How would Kage Baker write this? Why can't I write it like Kage Baker?"

Answer: I'm not Kage Baker.

Other answer: I'll never write "special" stories if I'm not true to myself. I've got to grow and adapt, of course, but my voice is not going to be anyone else's voice. I have my own voice. I'm not sure it's a commercial voice, but it's the one I've got to work with. I'll never write "special" stories if I'm not true to myself.

I've lost track somewhat of what's special about this story in trying to satisfy the critiques and honing it down to a more reasonable length. The thing is, I know there are parts of it that are really good, that are special. But the entry into the story, any story, is crucial and if I can't get that right, no one's ever going to read the rest. I harp on openings in my crits all the time because I know how critical they are, but sometimes it's difficult to take my own advice.

Ya know?
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Here's my weekly report on The Rewrite That Will Not Die 2: The Winnowing:

Chapters completed: 21

Revised page count: 599

Revised manual word count: 147,254 (net words cut 1966)

Revised Word line count with a zero stuck on the end word count: 146,650 (net words cut 1640)


I spent most of the week battling with chapters 17 and 18. They needed more than just winnowing, they needed more rewriting. So I did. It was a hard slog. Some added text balanced out text cut and slowed the whole winnowing process down, but I feel better about these chapters now. I still don't think they're quite there, but I've gone as far as I can go with them at this juncture, from my current perspective. It's time to release them back into the wild and see if they can fly on their own.

But I feel real good about getting the page count below 600! Yowza! True, it's only 599, but the 600 mark was a real psychological barrier. Now getting this monster down to 145k seems eminently feasible, and getting it down to 140k is an outside possibility. I've got 11 chapters and an epilogue to go, so we'll see.

I didn't get any other writing work done, of course, but I did get some good creative noodling done. I thought through some problems with my Dos Lunas/JK novel (a contemporary fantasy), but still have to figure out some major elements there. (Like, for one, why did Ramona hijack the story, what does she want, and do I give in and let her have her say or tell her to shut up.)

A completely new story popped into my brain, tentatively titled, "The Mistress and the Loon." And a completely new voice started talking to me the other night. I'm not at all sure where she fits in, but she does have some interesting things to say. I also did some creative noodling on the story that refuses to let me change its working title. I suppose it would be wrong to write a story called "Barfing Angel"? Yeah, I thought so.

Now, what I really need is to finish this rewrite and the attendant synopsis, et al., and get it out the door so I can turn my energies back to other projects and crits. I'm beginning to loathe this novel—which means it's definitely time to let go.

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